Alright, I indeed do know what I'm doing with this sort of stuff, but I am sick of using in-house scripts and debugging them, I want something plug and play of sorts. I really like the way MSM handles server creation, However it seems that whenever I use MSM my ram usage goes out the roof. SO I want your opinions. I love the concept of mark2 but upon trying to set it up my brain went crazy, if someone wants to give me a guided tutorial for that you'll be my new favorite! Also note I will not use a Control Panel.