Faction server

Discussion in 'Server & Community Management' started by DogeTennant, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. Hello, we are planning to extend our network by adding a Faction server, however I dont really have an idea what plugins to add except the obvious ones (Faction plugin, anticheat, some essentials (probably CMI) and permissions plugin)

    What else is needed for a faction server or atleast is needed for it to be more enjoyable. (Dont worry to recommend premium resources)
     
  2. I suggest looking at other servers and seeing what they have.
     
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  3. Welp, you asked for it. :p

    OutPosts - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/outpost-premium-1-8-x-1-12-x-under-recode.38657/
    KOTH - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/king-of-the-hill-efficient-and-automatic-1-7-1-12.6832/
    GenBuckets - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/savagegenbuckets-1-8-1-13-the-ultimate-genbucket-plugin.63051/
    FactionsTOP - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/f-top-factions-top-by-novucs.26905/
    ChunkBuster - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/chunkbuster-1-8-1-14-clear-any-area-of-land.60057/
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    VoidChest - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/✦-voidchest-1-8-1-14-2-holograms-boosters-auto-sell-auto-purge-✦.65576/
    Cannons - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/remotecannons.63045/
    MonthlyCrates - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/monthly-crates-➢-create-your-own-monthly-crates-complete-recode-beta.55765/
    Totem - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/totemsplus.60828/
    Bosses - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/☛-boss™-custom-monsters-and-animals-on-your-server-1-8-9-1-14-2.46497/
    Crates - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/crazy-crates.17599/
    Obsidian Destroyer - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/obsidian-raider.69098/
    Envoy - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/crazy-envoy.32870/
    Trench Tools - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/faction-tools-trench-tools-and-more.66598/
    Inspect - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/⭐️-wildinspect-⭐️-custom-inspect-mode-with-factions-hookup.60646/
    RTP - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/...tions-towny-gp-worldborder-etc-support.29971/
    Boosters - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/faction-boosters.51642/
    JellyLegs - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/jellylegs.17159/
    Mob Coins - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/bamobcoins.65777/
    Vouchers - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/vouchers.13654/
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    Mob Arena - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/mobarena.34110/
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    Sell Wands - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/▶-sellwands-◀-wands-which-sell-chests.40900/
    Quests - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/▶-quests-◀-set-up-goals-for-players.23696/
    Skills - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/▶-playerskills-◀-allow-your-players-to-upgrade-skills.29477/
    XP & Money withdraw - https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/beastwithdraw-multy-withdraw-plugin.13896/
     
    #3 ExtremeSpirit, Jul 12, 2019 at 8:57 PM
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2019 at 9:06 PM
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  4. GaIaxy

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    Gross, another Factions server.
     
  5. I have been out of the loop for a while. Are Factions still relevant, apart from the original MassiveCraft server?
     
  6. GaIaxy

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    I guess anything can be relevant with enough advertising campaign funds. I get disgusted when I see Factions servers mainly because they aren't what they used to be. Everyone and their mother seems to make them now days because they can bring in profits if done correctly. However, that's never the case and they generally always fail.
     
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  7. Ahh. I see.
    Wish people would appreciate true survival more and play for real instead of paying for a tawdry rank that destroys all the fun.
    Just my 2¢.
    Cheers.
     
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  8. I'm sorry, but you know nothing of our situation. We already have a running network which isn't international (we are a czech server) and we are not going necessarily after money. We wouldn't even be creating faction server, if players from our survival server weren't asking for it. It wont be the same like it used to be, but it wont fail, as we already have a player base.

    We already have a survival server and people appreciate it, but they want some more hardcore pvp. And our network isnt known for 10 different overpriced ranks, you dont have to worry about that.
     
  9. No, just no.... You can have all the advertisement in the world. It doesn't mean a server will succeed because of that. Sure, it's going to potentially draw a massive audience, but if it isn't fun & worth their time, player's aren't going to stay. Faction Servers have been a thing for a long time now. It may not be what it's use to be, but it's a new era. I ran faction servers back in 2015-2017 & I can definitely tell you that some faction servers flop. It's actually a great gamemode, it's grindy & fun. Of course, if you suck at PvP then that gamemode is obviously not the right choice. Point is, you're quite ignorant & frankly, your response annoys me. Maybe that's not what you intended, but that's how it comes across. They don't "generally fail" majority of faction servers not only bring in profits, but hundred's of players. Not going to name any names, but if you do your research you'll know what exactly what I'm talking about.

    At the end of the day, people need to make a living. It's quite stupid to just say people make servers for just "PROFIT".
    Am I ruling out everyone? No, of course not. There are some people out there that solely make servers just for money & don't give a shit for their community. Some people make servers to bring content & entertainment to people.
     
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  10. I was generalising.
     
  11. First reply was towards the other guy (first quote) :D
     
  12. GaIaxy

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    This should be fun. The first comment if you read it correctly was generalized to Factions servers. But you're right, I don't know anything about your situation. From my experience and watching the market, Factions servers always either fail to launch or launch but have to shut down due to bugs, loss of funds, or they don't have the playerbase they projected.

    So I just went ahead and bolded the bullshit in your statement.

    Advertising brings in a crowd. I've seen a complete shit server bring in a ton of profit because of their advertising campaign. I've also seen a really great server fail because they didn't advertise. If you can get the name out there and reach an audience, you'll have a much greater chance of success than if you don't and just sit and wait because your server is "fun and worth their time." You, like myself, ran servers back in the day. It's not what it used to be. Back then word of mouth was my main source or traffic. Now, it's all about reaching an audience. Don't believe me? Try to just toss a great server out there with little to none advertising and see how it does.

    You may say I'm ignorant if you wish, because frankly, I don't give a shit. Since I've ran servers, helped manage networks, and develop servers, I've seen a lot of great servers succeed, and I've seen a lot of great servers fail. The main source in it all was what? Oh that's right, advertising. I'm beating a dead horse here, but hopefully you can see past your own bullshit and see the greater picture I'm trying to paint here.

    Also, the majority of the Factions servers on the market advertise the hell out of their server to become a profitable server. Don't believe me? Do your damn research on advertising campaigns. it doesn't only apply to Minecraft, so if you want you can look at businesses and such. Let me know your results, I'm highly interested in them.
     
  13. I don't need to check myself, I know damn well what I'm talking about. You think your a big shot just because you develop? Please... this account I created on spigot is merely for helping others. Vague response & I don't even know why I bothered replying to your ignorance. You highlighting words is just a desperate attempt at trying to prove a point which you sadly failed... completely. You misinterpreted my words. A server can have hundred's of players on the release & still end up a flop if player's aren't willing to stay or play. I don't know what kind of servers you were running, but when I was running them, I had to make sure to get as much player's to stay as possible. I can see your response coming from a mile away. Judging from your previous posts, you don't seem to take constructive criticism very well... My point still stands, advertising doesn't always equal to success. It helps which was my point. "Success" for a minecraft server doesn't mean just draw in like hundred's of player's for a short time then call it "successful". Player's need to be active & stay on the server. Having a success server doesn't mean just having a good advertising strategy. Since you just love to not give a shit, I hope you realize I'm not even the least bit impress in what you do. Everything you said that you think it's so "good", I have already done, if not even more. Don't tell me to do my research, I already know the statistics more than you. I know server owners who run faction server's & they are very successful. You just say they "generally" fail because you want them to. But, that's not the truth. You're not painting any "bigger" picture. You're just making a fool of yourself & stop being rude to DogeTennant

    Wait hold up, I'm going to just highlight what you said earlier since you think that serves any relevance at all.

    "You may say I'm ignorant if you wish, because frankly, I don't give a shit."

    Well, that explains everything doesn't it?

    Before you decide to embarrass yourself more, I'm not even into factions that much. I love playing prison/skyblock servers. I definitely know not to hire you for anything. Clearly, in the beginning I stated if player's aren't going to stay on the server then that advertisement is pretty much a waste. If the server doesn't profit, it usually shuts down due to lack of funds & ends up a flop. You just skimmed over my response & replied to what you want to. You didn't even address the other things I said. You started all of this & I think it should end. This thread was suppose to be a informative thread, but you talking all this smack about faction servers.... Here's a word of advice, stop & think before writing any more threads. I'm sick of it. Keep your negative comments to yourself, nobody needs to hear you whining about how gross faction servers are...
     
    #13 ExtremeSpirit, Jul 16, 2019 at 12:52 AM
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  14. GaIaxy

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    Remember who came at who first :)

    Also, by you not wanting me to develop for you isn't my concern. I've stepped away from all that. Obviously though, opinions vary from person to person. That's why they are called opinion, right? So by me expressing what I see compared to what you see is abiding by the opinion that oneself can have. I've expressed what I seen in the most recent Factions server (or any for that matter) and what's on the marketplace. Take a gander at servers that are selling their assets. Most of them are Factions/PVP servers. They usually are selling because their base dipped or because their funds ran out to host it.

    Advertising campaigns are effective as mentioned. With the influx of new servers every hour, having a solid strategy to advertise your network or server is crucial to staying alive in the server world. Developing and helping run servers that dumped $10,000+ into the server that didn't include a advertising plan always ended up afloat. The development was there, as was the back-end. But, the name couldn't get out because they didn't have the money to make it happen.

    So again, by saying I'm unsure what I am talking about with advertising is rather intriguing. You say you aren't into factions anymore, and I can agree with that. I myself stick to prison, MMORPG, or survival based servers. But, to each their own.

    So by me expressing what I see with Factions server isn't informative? Seeing where people fail is a great opportunity to make sure you don't follow that same path and exceed the standards. So my thread, being the polar opposite of what you see, is giving information on how to avoid the "Oh great, another Factions server." standards.

    Almost forgot this one. My opinions are making a fool out of myself? I guess that makes everyone who gives one a fool then. Maybe it's that you cannot see past your own ignorance and see what I'm trying to express? And being rude to OP isn't my intention, nor did it come off that way. It wasn't an attack on OP but rather my opinion on factions servers.

    Have a blessed day, you need it.

    Edit: If you want to continue the argument I'm more than willing to via PM's. I've expressed what I need to, and I honestly don't want my expressions to come off as a personal attack on yourself or OP.
     
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  15. Don't you dare drag the OP, he's innocent in all of this. You were just being a judgmental & pessimistic towards me & him. I have had about enough. You failed to address my other crucial points. I would rather talk to a brick wall than you, GaIaxy. I'll just rate your post and be done with. Read your PM's, I will never address this ever again.

    To the OP DogeTennant, I'm sorry you had to witness all of this. Good luck with your server, man. I feel like you should just lock this thread before it gets any worse.
     
    #15 ExtremeSpirit, Jul 16, 2019 at 4:44 AM
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