When a user joins they are added to group 'g1' (the default group) When said player ranks up they move to 'g2' If the player is added to a secondary group (not on the ladder, staff for example) using the command: Code (Text): /pex user <user> group add mod while in 'g2': the player now is a member of 'g2' and 'mod' but, while in 'g1': the player is now only a member of 'mod', this means they are no longer on the ladder so cannot move to 'g2'. From reading around, this problem is caused by pex saving storage by not noting down any user which is in the default group, This works as if the player is not in a group, pex can assume they are in the default. The issue comes when they are added to the 'mod' group, as they are not noted to be in the default group in the config, the player is no longer a member of the default group (as pex can no longer assume they are part of it) How could I keep the player in 'g1' while adding them to group 'mod'? A possible solution may be asking pex to save users details who are in the default group? not sure that is possible though.