T̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶u̶b̶f̶o̶r̶u̶m̶ ̶"̶S̶p̶i̶g̶o̶t̶ ̶P̶l̶u̶g̶i̶n̶ ̶D̶e̶v̶e̶l̶o̶p̶m̶e̶n̶t̶"̶,̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶m̶y̶ ̶u̶n̶d̶e̶r̶s̶t̶a̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶,̶ ̶e̶x̶i̶s̶t̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶h̶e̶l̶p̶ ̶p̶e̶o̶p̶l̶e̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶i̶s̶s̶u̶e̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶p̶l̶u̶g̶i̶n̶ ̶r̶e̶l̶a̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶S̶p̶i̶g̶o̶t̶/̶B̶u̶k̶k̶i̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶A̶P̶I̶,̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶w̶e̶l̶l̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶o̶w̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶c̶o̶m̶m̶u̶n̶i̶t̶y̶ ̶m̶e̶m̶b̶e̶r̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶s̶h̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶o̶w̶n̶ ̶k̶n̶o̶w̶l̶e̶d̶g̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶A̶P̶I̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶h̶e̶l̶p̶ ̶o̶t̶h̶e̶r̶s̶.̶ ̶I̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶s̶y̶s̶t̶e̶m̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶f̶a̶i̶r̶l̶y̶ ̶s̶t̶r̶a̶i̶g̶h̶t̶f̶o̶r̶w̶a̶r̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶s̶i̶m̶p̶l̶e̶,̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶n̶o̶r̶m̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶q̶u̶e̶s̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶n̶e̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶s̶w̶e̶r̶e̶d̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶b̶e̶.̶ You know, I could write a big topic, with lots of reasons, but it's just painfully obvious. "Spigot Plugin Development", as far as I'm concerned, should be for questions pertaining to spigot or anything relevant to it. Just because someone callously decided that they would rather have everyone else hold their hand to write plugins instead of learning the language, doesn't mean that it should be the responsibility (using that term lightly) of the people who try to help in those subforums. It makes the forums a joke, one of which ends with people shitposting the same responses or copy/pasting things they have no understanding of, or worse yet offering tutorials that are absolutely terrible to use in any sort of production environment. Here's an example of a thread which has finally brought me to the point of having to actually make this thread: The "spigot plugin development" section is becoming a joke, just as the old "Plugin Development" section on the bukkit forums did. It's at a point where I am no longer wanting to help in any form if it doesn't change. People can easily learn the basics of java if they sat down for a couple of weeks and actually learned something, rather than half-ass it and assume they could learn it along the way. If the point of spigot is improving upon bukkit, then this subforum isn't meeting that criteria by a long shot.